A must see documentary. I rented "Who Killed the Electric Car" last spring and I was absolutely shocked, stunned and sickened at what I learned.

In a nut shell, between '96 - '04, GM and other car manufactures created and leased electric cars (in CA) such as the EV1 which could travel over 100 miles on a charge. This production of EC's was spurred due to California's enormous smog issues and the advent of a law that required car makers to reduce emissions. What will sicken you is how the technology and the cars themselves vanished under pressure from.....guess who? Yep, big oil!

A must see documentary, rent it today and pass the word along to your friends and family. I'm floored that so few people even know about this.

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A few hollows down the road from me there is a guy who has built his house in a novel way. For three years he spent his summers tearing down old out buildings on local farms. By saving all the lumber and some very creative use of a saw he built a house. Now there is nothing unusual in this you might say but this place is different. IT'S BEAUTIFUL! When I went to see it I was expecting this tumble down eco-cabin and was floored. As you drive up a short gravel drive-way you round a corner and see a natural wood structure that has the darkened appearance of old furniture achieved by an oil based stain (I know its not eco but it was used for a very valid reason... It preserves and waterproofs the wood beautifully and the idea is never to have to do it again) which was applied liberally over several years. The overall effect makes it look as though it grew from the landscape. He has used fruit trees and herbs along with such flowers as lavender and rose to achieve a garden as nice as any I have seen on HGTV.
Inside he didn't skimp on his flooring. Natural bamboo makes for one of the most beautiful floors I have ever seen (I am not sure what color stain he used but it looks deep red like cherry or rosewood). For his kitchen and bathroom tile he used, GETS THIS, old slate roofing tiles. They, due to age and damage, had to be cut in irregular shapes that make for a beautiful random patterns and look as nice as the $3.00/sq foot stuff at Home Depot. His kitchen counters are old bowling alley lanes cut to fit and make a fantastic overall look by lightening an otherwise dark space. Cabinets were taken fro a remodel of his neighbor and refaced to match the flooring. His fireplace is built of an assortment of foundation stones and river rock that, while cacophonous, is not unpleasing. He didn't skimp on windows... Pella double hung... or insulation. Keeping the house as energy efficient as possible was a priority. Now here's the rub... he didn't build the house as an eco project. He built it to save cost. This amazing structure (I only covered half of it) cost him less than $20,000 to build and looks nothing like an eco home is generalized to appear like.
I wanted to bring that up because it occurs to me that he did a fantastic thing that deserves mention (He asked that I omit any reference of his name or actual location.). I wonder if I could do that as well. It could be carried farther I suppose but it would, I think, compromise the overall look of the place.
Without meaning to he created a house that is over 70% recycled material and while other eco options exist that could be used in place of paints and stains I believe that the recycled material more than offsets the footprint. Further he did this project on the cheep and it was so successful he is doing his garage in the same manner.
Now that's solving a problem!

world without end,

sean

As if the recent spill on the Mississippi was not indication enough... As if, it was not acknowledged as the most fragile habitat on the planet... As if they could ever be satisfied ... The great bloated tic called OIL is at it again. Their most recent target... The Arctic Circle. That's right all you penguin lovers big oil's next move will be to destroy all life in the Arctic.
Supporters of the push for arctic drilling use the Alaskan pipeline as an example of how safe and efficient it will be. As usual big oil has ignored all scientific and ecological evidence of contrary opinion by using carefully selected statistics quoted out of context to support their claims. "There is enough oil there to support the world demand for three years..." one oil exec was quoted as saying.
Despite the fact that the same oil executive says that the technology to build these huge platforms is currently in the realm of science fiction it appears that plans to develop these areas are plowing ahead like a juggernaut.
So just to recap... Big Oil now wants to destroy our beaches, tear up the tundra, waste billions of tons of water extracting oil from shale (as much water per ton as Denver uses a day), and have no accountability for any ecological damage as demonstrated by the recent ruling on the Exxon Valdez debacle. At what point do we start to tell these colossus' NO! They have gotten their way for so long they no longer seem to recognize government regulations. For that matter government has forgotten that they can regulate big oil. Remember that big oil is counting on the majority remaining silent during this push to suck the last drops of oil from the earth's crust. We must act!
Wow, gee, Hey Mr. President, could I be on the Mars Mission since you plan to make the Earth uninhabitable.


world without end,

sean

While I must applaud GM's new concept car the "Volt" I await its release with some degree of trepidation. Ford now has a Hybrid SUV that uses soy based foam in its seat cushions.... Hey fabulous!

Now for the bad news...GM's the Volt is huge, way bigger than it needs to be. In fact it's the same size of some luxury sedans. While this will appeal to those of the mind set that bigger is better, it fails to recognize that bigger also means it requires more resource to build. Further, A GM executive was quoted, on N.P.R., as saying that it will cost $10,000 more than a normal car. Hmmmmm. Lets do some math. If the AVERAGE GM car runs around $30,000 and this car is going to cost $10,000 more... it quickly becomes apparent that the average Joe and his family will not be able to afford it. If most people cannot buy the car it solves nothing.
I mention this to notate that there is a car, called the "G-Wiz" available in England that runs around $18000 US, however, to the best of my knowledge; it cannot be purchased in the states. WHY! It occurs to me that this little love, by virtue of being more affordable, would go much further towards solving our energy crisis that the megalithic Volt.
Now we get to the new Ford Hybrid SUV (sorry I forget the name.) Great news! It gets a whopping 26 MPG highway. GRRRR! You know, back in the 1990's gas was relatively cheap. In this market of cheap gas there came unto the land a small car by an unheard of company called Geo. The car was the Metro 3cyl. It got 52 MPG and in its stripped down no option form ran about $6000-$7000. I know this because I bought another model that came out later called the Storm. I mention this because My 1991 Geo storm (that has had indifferent maintenance, random infrequent oil changes, and I don't remember the last time I checked the tires) get better Gas mileage than this new Hybrid. How does this solve anything?
Now the question becomes apparent why aren't the US car manufacturers applying their brain-pans to creating a car that could compete with the second hand market? If India can create a fuel efficient car for around $5000 I refuse to believe that our car manufacturers are unable to do the same with an electric or mega fuel efficient hybrid (perhaps go back to the 90's and revamp the metro 3cyl with a hybrid system).
Now it will seem to some of you that I am running down these efforts by US auto manufacturers and I am sure I will be vilified by some members for stating these facts while, in fact, I applaud GM's new concept car... they are currently in negotiation with the large electric conglomerates as to how to power them and new smart grid technologies that will assist in using the entire power production grid more efficiently. AWESOME! I applaud Ford whose Executive, at the recent celebration of the model T's 100th anniversary, stated that the electrification of the car is the next big step in automobile technology. FANTASTIC! But we must remember that all the technology in the world will not help if the people can't afford it. Again, I applaud the big three's efforts in this area but while they're working in this direction they need to think about small cheep options for people who mainly shop the secondary market, an ideology that Henry Ford himself would embrace as he demonstrated with the model T's being "cheap enough for a person making an average wage".
We won't be through this crisis until everyone is driving more efficient electric or hybrid cars. Hell, just bringing back the 3cyl metro would make a huge difference. There are currently foreign designs out there that could work that we cannot buy here. If they can do it so can we.

world without end,

sean

Hi all for those of you who don't know I'm in the middle of a fight for my right to speak. It's all very hush hush. However, has anyone heard of this plan the European Union has for using African deserts to generate solar power for Europe? If so could you please enlighten me?

world without end,

sean
ps... I'm all for it if Africa finally would get some of the relief they desperatly need, ie: some sheckles in the coffer....

splendidtable.publicradio.org/locavore_nation

better for the enviroment and healthier....I've been doing it for years....

going quiet for a while.waddle along without me.

sean

More news of Poo peeps. There was a great interview on N.P.R (National Public Radio for our friends to the north and south) from BBC about the new trend in fertilizer. That's right Guys...... Human waste as fertilizer. Now just to clarify I DON'T mean the kinda stuff that the Granola heads are doing with dry composting toilets but rather a great new addition of the huge problem of sewage treatment. It appears that after it has been treated what is left over, from the huge amount of poo and pee we generate each day, makes excellent fertilizer that is 99% sterile (that's the same as the organic fertilizer the granola heads tout.)
Now there does appear to be one small drawback..... It stinks. A problem that is easily rectified by immediately turning it into the soil according to one British farmer that uses it. It's so popular with brit farmers that apparently the waste treatment plants have sold all they have on hand this season....But the real problem appears to be us. The stigma attached to human waste is huge. Well for me pile it on them tomatos I got no issue with it....

world without end,
sean

Apperently the powers that be in the green industry are not interested in hiring anyone unless they have a PHD in applied sciences I have spent the last month looking into green jobs and have found that no one will hire you except in the feild of applied sciences.... Hell I was just looking into a job as a lab tech or something... no go. If the market rejects 90% of its potential human reasources before they have even applied then this movement has died before it began. I am very disillusioned....and still the bio-fuel industry talks corn corn corn... what happened to switchgrass. I think we are already failing.

oh well I'll still sign your damn petitions but I give up you all talk and do nothing.

sean

Hey. The few of you who bother to read these posts may have noticed I havent been posting.... Anyone want to guess why?

I see as usual the veggies are on a rampage for thew abolishment of all meat eaters. Unsavory cusses trhat deserve all the health problems they will encounter. NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First and foremost let me state that in a minor way they're right but like all cultists they have taken a good idea and fallen off the brink of insanity into the abyss. YES, we eat way too much meat as a culture. YES, hormones in meat are a problem. YES, mad cow disease is horrible....(here's a weird thought.... QUIT FEEDING COWS OTHER COWS)! SIGH! Ok people lets try to get through this.... Look! The facts are that meat is not the only option and we dont need to eat meat with every meal (and I dont).but insted of just doing away with the jobs and economics of the meat industry and its by-products (like animal food, big hint: cats and dogs are CARNIVORES) why dont we look at it in a different light. Fast food chains are huge culprits. We should set higher regulations on how they raise their beefs (eg: let the cows develop to maturity without hormones, (the industry can afford to take the time to do this without raising prices they just want you to think that). We should require that the waste product (like POOP) is used to produce power( methane production could be used both for power and for running vehicles). Increase fines (and the power of the USDA) and introduce legislation that actually increases penalitiesfor animal cruelity to the point that these huge companies can't afford to treat animals inhumanly (eg: first offense huge fine, second offense = 75% of gross profit, third offense: you are out of business!) Institute policy whereby foriegn companies must comply with USDA regulations or they cannot import to us ( many other countries already have similar policy). America is not currently in an economic position to just destroy that many jobs. Further, Most doctors agree that while you can get protien from other sources there are other benefits to meat consumption that a vegan or even a vegetarian diet cannot supply....certian NATURALLY occuring hormones are nessessary to early childhood development (Scientific American, August 2005, New England Journal of Medicine, May 2006). This is a case where moderation in our consumption of a product could make a huge impact. Insisting on tough anti-cruelity laws and strict enforcment of them is the best option, especially in the case of Mad Cow disease where the cause is known and a simple solution is available; QUIT FEEDING COWS OTHER COWS. Take the time and effort to go to local farmers and buy your beef: I buy half a cow a year and get high end grass fed beef (ever get a grass fed steak in a resturant; pricey) that is tasty and I know exactly what its living conditions were.... The guy I deal with takes excellent care of all his livestock. This small and simple step takes approximatly 1 year to impliment (to grow the cow) and is a fantastic stimulant to local economy.... and I find a damn site cheeper. So long Wal-Mart world without end, sean

Well actually it is..... An open letter to NASA: To whom it may concern, For years now NASA has been refering to the concept of a full time Lunar base as impractical due to the enourmous cost of ferrying raw materials to the moon. Has it ever blinked through the American brain trust that you already have, both literally and figuritivly tons of material in orbit already? In fact is there not so much "space junk" currently in orbit it is begining to become a navagational hazard? Now I realize that computers become obsolete and solar pannels fail.....but isn't there plenty of steel, titanium, copper, wiring, gold foil, tubing,etc,etc up there that you could begin a major project. I mean how hard could it be to attach an unmanned booster to these "junk" satelites and shove them into a lunar orbit, where they could then be stockpiled then cannibalized for their raw materials? wouldn't that save billions? Hey were shooting for Mars and thats awesome but lets also think about a permant space station rather than sending a new one up every 15 years. this letter has also been sent to NASA and i encourage all of you to add your voice to it by sending your own e-mail. world without end, sean

Hey I have been touting the benifits of alge production for years so finally some one has written an informative blog on it...... Much thanks to team tree hugger... TreeHugger.com..........a very good resource for us granola heads. read and enjoy I'm off for a weekend of self-medication with 80 proof ethenol disguised as fruit juice.

TreeHugger Founder Graham Hill Reveal...
Ben Harper on Surfing and Clean Ocean...
Alligator Calls 911 "There's a Kitche...
Green Star Creates Breakthrough Micronutrient that Boosts Algae Growth
by Michael Graham Richard, Gatineau, Canada on 05.22.08
Science & Technology (alternative energy)
First Generation Biofuels Need to Go
While an almost universal scientific consensus is developing around the downsides of first generation biofuels (f.ex. corn ethanol), entrepreneurs and scientists are working on biofuels that require less energy inputs to make and don't compete for agricultural land with food crops. One of the most promising feedstocks is algae, with which biodiesel can be made.

One of the companies working on making algal fuels viable is Green Star, and they just announced the creation of a new micronutrient that can help boost algae daily growth rate by 34% and "increase the total biomass quantity in a harvest algae growth cycle by well over 100%."

Researchers Want to Make Biodiesel form Algae
Research took place in Biotech Research's lab facility at the UABC University in Ensenada, Mexico.

The UABC testing has shown that 1:10,000 nutrient dilution rates were very productive (i.e. one gallon of MMB mixed with 10,000 gallons of water). Even at 1:20,000 dilution levels, the MMB was still effective.
Green Star will make available 12-oz sample bottles to all universities [either at no cost or with $50 shipping fees], research institutes and commercial facilities for testing on their specific strains of algae.


This is quite a smart move. This way they can find quickly which kinds of algaes work with the micronutrient, and their product will get more scientific scrutiny from many unbiased observers.

Biofuels are Entangled in Politics
The fast second generation biofuels come to market, the faster we can convince politicians that they should drop all those counter-productive corn subsidies. The farm lobby will fight back, but if it is publicly known that a viable alternative that is both greener and doesn't make food prices shoot up exists, their position will be a lot harder to defend.

We havent been paying much attention to the small fry lately. So here we go. Has anyone noticed the growing number of smaller dairy farms producing power from the methane from their cow poop production. Its true.....further its a great way to offset the impact the co2 produced from our huge consumption of meat.... (Hey I like dead cow as much as anyone but we do eat too much) I mean heres this power supply that just grows and grows its a free byproduct of the meat industry that, so far, has been reletivly untapped.... We should collectively pester the large factory meat producers to adopt this practice. Aproach them with this arguement; "If a company's basic goal is to produce money for their stockholders, then think of all the extra money freed up if your power bill were zero or the power company owed you money? A small initial investment could save/make these larger companies millions and reduce dependence on fossil fuels which also qualifies them for larger tax breaks, and makes them look good to us tree hugging types." whew!!!!

world without end,

sean

Hmmmm, Hemp for victory.... WWII? NORML? CAN? Well I be Dipped in tar baby.... I thought that yous peeps dropped off the planet. Hehehehe J/K. In actuallity everything that I've read from these guys is true: from hemp oils to bio-fuel, paper products to bio-plastics, rope to rastas it is all true.... the reason hemp (mariauajuana) is illegal is more tax issue than medical ones (Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way... History channel documentary from 2004 or 06 ) BUT........ IT IS ILLEGAL! While you are touting the benifits of the cannibis plant consider this, IT MUST STILL BE CULTIVATED! Not the most efficient method to produce a bio-fuel. Now consider the lowly switch grass plant. Grows anywhere without cultivation, drought resistant (cannibis is not), and can produce all the products that your precious cannibis sativia can cheeper and way more efficiently. NOW if you want to make an arguement that cannibis has relevance in the world as a safe, useful, and profitable product, tout its benifits to chemotherapy patients, glaucoma sufferers, and as a safe and natural analgesic. Try the arguement that tobacco is way more harmful to the enviroment and the human body and should be made illegal, mariauajuana legalized, and the tobacco industry given the mariauajuana concession, with its by-products used to increase bio-fuel production, paper production, or just composted and I'll be 100% behind it. But as a plant for bio-fuel production it is found wanting. Even for paper it is more inefficient than bamboo which can make a better weave cloth that cannibis as well. Sorry to rain on the parade guys but go the medical route it makes way more sense and has a proven track record that has been scientificly studied with empirical data that can be quoted. (Available references through the University of California Berkley). Nevertheless it is AN alternative. Just dont use sophistry to belabor the point.

world without end,

sean

Hehehehe, I been promising some sites for green products and now have a very short list compiled......

Panda Snack brand clothing:
tobi.com (bamboo will save us all )

Mohawk Fine Papers:
Listen up business owners ..... This company is using post consumer recycled stock in their manufacturing they also offset their carbon emissions by using 100% wind power.... check them out I will be buying my printer paper there....still a bit expensive.
mohawkpaper.com

Must include that the city of Berkley will be instituting a policy to loan money at low intrest rates to offset the cost of solar pannels...... yippie for the governator......

check out earth911.com they actually have a list of products and services, whod've ever thunk...(hey moderators....HINT HINT)

green line paper:
"Greenline Paper is a proud member of Co-op America's National Green Pages and Chlorine-Free Products Association"
greenlinepaper.com

The American Enviromental Health Foundation:
The website could be more user friendly but has some good information and product lists...
AEHF.com

Farm Sanctuary......these guys are on the right track:
"Farm Sanctuary works to end cruelty to farm animals and promotes compassionate living through rescue, education and advocacy. We envision a world where the violence that animal agriculture inflicts upon people, animals and the environment has ended, and where instead we exercise values of compassion.Factory farming is an attitude that regards animals and the natural world merely as commodities to be exploited for profit. In animal agriculture, this attitude has led to institutionalized animal cruelty, massive environmental destruction and resource depletion, and animal and human health risks. "
Farmsanctuary.org

Weisenbach Specialty Printing..... Another site for you enterprenurial types....
"Did you know that Weisenbach is a full service commercial printer? We can print your conference program, membership directory, newsletters, posters, bookcovers, brochures, posters, and note cards plus any other printed materials. We made a complete switch to soy-based inks - way back in 1989!"
recycledproducts.com

I will close with this lovely bit of info..... The Georgia Institute of Technology has created a low cost, solid CO2 absorber made from nitrogen rich amines (no idea but it sounds impressive =P) grown on a porous silica lattice that can be re-used (un-like its predecessors)..... (Scientific Americian May 2008)
I am not a huge proponet of coal technology BUT its safer than nuclear power; This means that an actual clean coal plant is in the running. I know its still a fossil fuel and I agree that other avenues must be explored.....in the interum, however, it will ease the changeover to renuables which, at this juncture, is a very important issue.

world without end,

sean

OK, this obviously bears more discussuion than I thought. Many of us, myself included, have a propensity for thinking that there is one great solution for all our problems. We must consider that its many smaller solutions that will save us. Now a poster recently had a comment about Chernobyl stating that it was the only meltdown on record (not true there has even been one in the US). I will grudgingly agree that nuclear incidents are few and far between but the cost is exponentially greater. However lets forget the potential for meltdown for a while, I do believe that it could be overcome. What I am on about is the waste. It has a (LOOKIT) 50,000 year HALF LIFE. Now lets look at where we are going to put it shall we? Why we BURY it.... that will solve the problem huh? (!)

Common sense (never common) says that if it didnt work for our garbage, if the enviromental impact is even on par with our landfills, we would be causing a greater problem than we solved. In fact there are several superfund sites just for the radioactive waste from these "solutions".

Now we need to ask ourselves is there something better...... Ok this may be contraversial but .... We havent looked at hydrogen as anything other than a means to power a car. I think we need to look at the universe's most plentyful element a little more seriously. Most power plants use steam heated by whatever means to turn a turbine and thereby produce power. Now there is a type of alge (yup slime) that can be induced to produce hydrogen as part of its natural respiration process. While photosynthisis is occuring it would eat CO2, while respirating it would produce fuel. The byproduct (dead slime) makes exellent feed for livestock. HMMMMMMMMMMM! Now would it work? I dont know I am not an engineer....but the theroy seems sound and its an avenue that has not been approached.

What about right now? Well i hate to say it but.... some of the new clean coal technology in the works is pretty impressive, wind and solar can take up plenty of slack (ineffecient, perhaps but non-polluting and free) Lets say we got just 10% of our..... you've heard this arguement. Geo-thermal energy has made Iceland 80% energy independant. Germany has a fantastic program that pays normal people to farm solar energy from the roofs of their houses (think on this if every new home built had a solar pannel on it.), if my state put a damn windmill on every mountian top they removed to get coal...... the list continues.... Its not going to be one big solution guys its going to be many little solutions...as in one solution for each of us and TOGETHER we Will solve it.

world without end,

sean

Does anyone have a website with information on the new "Bio-plastics" produced from wood,corn or other sources? Apperantly its supposed to be bio-degradeable. I am also looking for information on whether the new plasticized wood products that are all the rage can be recycled and if not what we are going to do with it all in 50 years whhen we get tired of it?

Blah,

hehehe. OK, now for something completly different.....


Let me let me adress a recent post that bothered me:

#1 name calling belongs on the playground
#2 I don't care whether you are ultra-left and building a house out of used tires ( plans available and its a great structure) or ultra-right and changing out lightbulbs to save 5 bucks on your electric bill. Every little bit helps and any green step should be nourished, encouraged, and helped to grow, Not told that they are too far right or left of the real picture.
#3 The half-life of nuclear fuel is so great that the law of averages almost ensures an accident of biblical proportions. Chernobyl?
(there is a concept in the works that nuclear fuel can be recycled...however most rational scientists dismiss the concept as far too dangerous. Scientific American May 2008)
#4 IQ is not a measure of intelligence it is a measure of abillity to learn and means absolutly nothing in the real world..... as my hideous spelling and run on sentences prove :P

world without end,

sean

I don't think I'm in the mood to write a post today but I do want to just type a few lines. Sorry if I was too political yesterday sometimes I just gotta vent. Normally I will try to keep polotics out of my posts. However just like everyone else I get flamming mad over events that I cannot change. So today lets Talk about happy things.

Way to go Ford... Using soy based foam in the seats of their new hybrid.
Good job Wal-Mart (gasp) yup I said it.... Wal-Mart has started taking back used plastic shopping bags to recycle... If thats true in every location, as it is in WV, then we are eliminating tons of plastic. Everyone should use this service whether we shop at Wal-Mart or not.
Congrats to Subaru for their Eco car plant but why is there only one? ( more on that in a later post)
Way to go Governer Ted Strickland... for pushing for legislation to start using alternative energy sources in KY. Drop the guy an e-mail to encourage this wonderful behavior I did.
Keep it shining Germany for your incentives to put solar pannels on every home. (pay people to solar farm who'dve ever thunk?)

I promise that i have a list in the works for you guys. Its for eco products that everyone can afford. But i also want to make it a "made in the USA" list so its taking time.

world without end

sean

First let me apologize for all my typos in my last post. I was rushing to beat a thunder storm.

Now, Let me qualify my next statements by an explaination.... I am a Katrina evacuee and I do realize that what I am about to say may seem contraversial to some. However I feel it needs said, expecially if, like me, the other evacuees that read this didn't recieve any help from the Bush kingdom as promised.

We screwed up in New Orleans!
The disaster we experienced there was enormous. I was in that convention center and know, first hand, the dispair and abandonment we all felt then, and later, by our government. But.... We have never had a better oportunity to green up a major US city than we did in New Orleans. The entire infrastructture was down and with the HUGE cleanup we had an exellent opportunity for proving that a big city could be run as an ecofriendly system. Now I do realize that the overall goals immediatly following Katrina was to help as many people relocate as possible, as many of us know, that help has never come. So my Question is Of the billions of dollars donated to our relief what exactly happened to it all? (sorry Off track again) What I should have said was why, Under these conditions didn't these large energy conglomerates, supposedly investing billions in alternative energies take the time to throw up a solar farm, wind farm, or institute a massive recycle program. I mean look at all the wood that could have been pulverized into dust then into particle board that could then have been used to build housing. Think of all the steel from cars that could have been recycled into nails, the copper from electric lines for plumbing, the glass for windows, the plastics for tarplins, and tons of other recyclables that i have forgotten.
Of course the question is what would the incentive for a company be to undertake these actions and the answer is TAX BREAKS. Hell in those circumstances some companies (Waste Management comes to mind) could have had the opportunity to pay their entire tax bill from this.
It seems like common sense to me and I cant think of a single one of us that wouldnt have been more than happy to grab a hammer and throw in.
(Dont think I'm down on waste management remember they are making energy from garbage in California (oh happy day)).


world without end,

sean